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Dwindling In Unbelief

An unbeliever's thoughts about the Bible, Quran, and Book of Mormon

"And the angel said unto me: Behold these shall dwindle in unbelief." 1 Nephi 12:22

Which is more violent, the Bible or the Quran?Yesterday

(Repost with updated numbers and graphs)

The LORD is a man of war.

Exodus 15:3

Fight in the way of Allah. Quran 2:244

Which is more violent, the Bible or the Quran? Is there a way to objectively answer such a question?

Well, it wouldn't be easy. But it is possible to compare the amount of cruelty and violence in the two books.

Here is a summary of the highlighted verses in the SAB and SAQ.

Number of Cruel or Violent Passages Bible 907 Quran 520

So the Bible has more cruel or violent passages than the Quran. But the Bible is a much bigger book. How do they compare when size is taken into account?

Violence and Cruelty Total verses Percent Bible 907 31173 2.91 Quran 520 6236 8.34

When expressed as a percentage

How does God kill people? Let me count the ways.January 4

And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. --

Numbers 21:6

When it comes to killing people, God has quite an imagination.

Here's a summary of the many ways God killed people in the Bible. (Numbers in parentheses are the number of killing events, not the number of people killed. My very rough estimate of the total number of people killed by God is 33 million.)

The edge of the sword: God-assisted genocides and massacres (32) Okay, it's gets a bit boring reading the same words over and over again. And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:23-24 And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21 But if you are going to read the Bible, then you have to get

How many has God killed? (revised complete list and estimated total)January 4

I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh. --

Deuteronomy 32:39-42

In a previous post, I've listed and counted God's killings in the Bible. But I only included those that said exactly how many were killed by God. I came up with 2,301,417.

But that didn't include some of God's most impressive slaughters. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? The Bible doesn't say, so there's no way to know for sure. But it's possible to provide rough estimates in order to get a grand total, and that's what I'm attempting here. (New total: 33 million.)

VerseNumber killedCumulative total 1God drowns everyone of earth (except Noah and his family) Genesis 7:23 30,000,000? 30,000,000 2 God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. Genesis 19:24 1,000? 30,001,000 3 Lot's wife for looking

Who has killed more, Satan or God?January 3

And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Job 1:1-19

Since I revised the number on God's kill list, I also have to change the God vs. Satan killing contest results. So here it is.

In a previous post, I counted the number of people that were killed by God in the Bible. I came up with 2,301,417, which, of course, greatly underestimates God's total death toll, since it only includes those killings for which specific numbers are given. No attempt was made to include the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc., with which the good book is filled. Still, 2 million is a respectable number even for world class killers.

But how does this compare with Satan? How many did he kill in the Bible?

Well I can only find ten, and even these he shares with God, since God allowed him to do it as a part of a bet. I'm talking about the seven sons and three daughters of Job.

There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job ... And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.
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And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is n

How many has God killed? (revised)January 3

I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh. --

Deuteronomy 32:39-42

How many people did God kill in the Bible?

It's impossible to say for sure, but plenty. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? There's just no way to count them all.

But sometimes the Bible tells us exactly how many were killed by God. Here's a list of those that I can find. (If you find any that I've missed, let me know and I'll add them to the list.)

So far I come up with a total of 2,301,417 (not including, at least in some cases, women and children).

[Note: I eliminated the 90,000 that I had listed for the number of Midianites that were killed in Numbers 31. This was a very conservative estimate of the number killed based on the number of virgin girls that were kept alive (32,000). It was one of God's most disgusting massacres, but I cannot include it in this tally since I am only including those killings for which the Bible provides exact numbers.]

VerseNumber killedCumulative total 1Lot's wife for looking back Genesis 19:2611 2Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord"